Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 780G: New 5nm 765 Successor
by Andrei Frumusanu on March 25, 2021 10:00 AM EST- Posted in
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Today Qualcomm is announcing the successor to last year’s quite successful Snapdragon 765 line-up, a “premium” tier that the company had debuted, featuring the same higher-end features as on the flagship Snapdragon 800 series, albeit at lower performances.
The new Snapdragon 780G follows up on its predecessor with some large upgrades in terms of performance and multimedia capabilities, doubling up the number of large cores – increasing GPU performance by significant amounts, and featuring the new more performant fused AI engine with the new Hexagon 770 DSP. Furthermore, camera capture abilities have also seen great improvements with the new Spectra 570 triple-ISP.
Qualcomm Snapdragon Premium SoCs | ||||
SoC | Snapdragon 765 Snapdragon 765G |
Snapdragon 768G |
Snapdragon 780G |
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CPU | 1x Cortex-A76 @ 2.3GHz (non-G) @ 2.4GHz (765G) 1x Cortex-A76 @ 2.2GHz 6x Cortex-A55 @ 1.8GHz |
1x Cortex-A76 @ 2.8GHz 1x Cortex-A76 @ 2.4GHz 6x Cortex-A55 @ 1.8GHz |
1x Cortex-A78 @ 2.4GHz 3x Cortex-A78 @ 2.2GHz 4x Cortex-A55 @ 1.9GHz |
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GPU | Adreno 620 |
Adreno 620 +15% perf over 765G |
Adreno 642 +50% perf over 768G |
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DSP / NPU | Hexagon 696 HVX + Tensor 5.4TOPS AI (Total CPU+GPU+HVX+Tensor) |
Hexagon 770 Scalar+Tensor+Vector 12TOPs AI (Total CPU+GPU+DSP) |
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Memory Controller |
2x 16-bit CH @ 2133MHz LPDDR4X / 17.0GB/s |
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ISP/Camera | Dual 14-bit Spectra 355 ISP 1x 192MP or 1x 36MP ZSL or 2x 22MP with ZSL |
Triple 14-bit Spectra 570 ISP 1x 192MP or 1x 84MP ZSL or 2x 64+20MP ZSL or 3x 25MP ZSL |
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Encode/ Decode |
2160p30, 1080p120 H.264 & H.265 10-bit HDR pipelines |
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Integrated Modem | Snapdragon X52 Integrated (LTE Category 24/22) DL = 1200 Mbps 4x20MHz CA, 256-QAM UL = 210 Mbps 2x20MHz CA, 256-QAM (5G NR Sub-6 4x4 100MHz + mmWave 2x2 400MHz) DL = 3700 Mbps UL = 1600 Mbps |
Snapdragon X53 Integrated (LTE Category 24/22) DL = 1200 Mbps 4x20MHz CA, 256-QAM UL = 210 Mbps 2x20MHz CA, 256-QAM (5G NR Sub-6 4x4 100MHz) DL = 3300 Mbps UL = ? Mbps |
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Mfc. Process | Samsung 7nm (7LPP) |
Samsung 5nm (5LPE) |
At heart, the new Snapdragon 780G is a very different SoC to its predecessor as it changes up the CPU configuration quite substantially. We’re moving from a 1+1+6 config, to a newer 1+3+4 setup, including a prime Cortex-A78 core at 2.4GHz, three Cortex-A78 cores at 2.2GHz, and four Cortex-A55 cores at 1.9GHz. Qualcomm promises CPU uplifts of up to 40% - the doubling of the large cores as well as the new microarchitecture employed should indeed offer a good boost in everyday user experience.
On the GPU side, we’re seeing the use of a new Adreno 642. As usual Qualcomm doesn’t disclose much details on the design here, but they disclose a generational performance uplift of up to +50% over the Snapdragon 768G, meaning over the 765G that should grow to +72%. Based on our past benchmarks, this should end up with similar performance as the Adreno 640 of the Snapdragon 855 flagship from a few years ago – meaning the GPU is seemingly aptly named in terms of its performance.
Qualcomm is employing its newest fused scalar+tensor+vector DSP and AI engine in the new Snapdragon 780G, meaning it should be equal in terms of its architectural design as the new unit on the Snapdragon 888, albeit at lower performance levels. Qualcomm advertises 12TOPs of AI performance across all the IP blocks of the SoC, which is over 2x over that of the predecessor.
In terms of DRAM, the SoC remains a 2x16b LPDDR4X-2133 design, which seems to be crucial for cost reduction in this market segment.
A very large upgrade in capabilities is found on the part of the camera ISPs. Again, much like the DSP, the new design follows up with the similar new IP architecture as employed in the Snapdragon 888, employing a new triple Spectra 570 block that is capable of operating three RGB camera sensors concurrently. 192MP captures are possible for single modules (with shutter lag), or in terms of zero shutter lag operation we can see either 1x 84MP, 64+20MP or 3x 25MP sensor configurations. In terms of video encoding, we don’t see mention of much changes compared to the predecessor so we assume that video capture abilities remain the same.
What’s very interesting of the new design and probably telling of the wider market at large, is the fact that the new part no longer advertises mmWave capability on the part of its modem. The new X53 modem has seemingly chopped off this feature from its spec sheet. Generally, mmWave remains an extremely niche feature that’s currently only widely deployed in select US cities globally. Given that the SoCs target devices at lower price points, and we’ve seen some extremely cheap Snapdragon 765 phones in the past year, mmWave capabilities were probably contradictory to the market segment these phones were targeting – vendors always have the possibility to use higher-end solutions such as the Snapdragon 870 if they want to include mmWave connectivity.
Finally, the new SoC is manufactured on Samsung’s 5LPE process node, which is an upgrade over the 7LPP node of last year’s Snapdragon 765. While the node doesn’t seem to be as promising when compared to TSMC’s 5nm node, it being employed in a SoC in this price category is definitely a positive and should show notable gains against its predecessor.
Qualcomm plans to bundle the Snapdragon 780G SoC with the FastConnect 6900 Wi-Fi chips which feature Wi-Fi 6E connectivity, hopefully signalling a wider spread of adopting of the new 6GHz spectrum technology.
The Snapdragon 780G is expected to see deployment in commercial devices in the second quarter of 2021.
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dudedud - Thursday, March 25, 2021 - link
QC must be selling the "new" 860 dirty cheap because this 780 seems like a much better deal in all categories.ZolaIII - Friday, March 26, 2021 - link
Seams as first really interesting SoC from QC this year if indeed QC claims regarding performance show as true.Ski5i - Saturday, March 27, 2021 - link
It would be very intresting to see how well it compares to snapdragon 865 plus and 870 in terms of overall performance, it will be competing among the simillarly priced smartphones.lionking80 - Monday, March 29, 2021 - link
Although 780G seems to be a good chipset, my guess is that it will be significantly behind even to the regular 865 in both CPU and GPU (15-20% in CPU and even more in GPU performance).mfaisalkemal - Sunday, March 28, 2021 - link
With 72.5% GPU improvement over snapdragon 765g, I guess snapdragon 780g GPU performance will be the first midrange chip that throttling.iphonebestgamephone - Sunday, March 28, 2021 - link
Older 6 series chips throttled all the time.ChrisGX - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link
The SD780G is looking like a very well balanced SoC. The modest clocks of the A78 cores should keep CPU cluster power consumption down while the GPU, DSP and ISP should ensure a good level of capability and performance.https://www.anandtech.com/show/15813/arm-cortex-a7...
Chybil - Monday, April 5, 2021 - link
Hi, what SoC is optimal for very good general performance in web browsing, apps, yt, camera and android launcher but NO Gaming. I have a feeling that when I buy 8xx Snapdragon I pay extra for gaming but I do not use it. Is that correct? Or maybe GPU is also used for web browsing?